The Judgement
Posted: 12 Nov 2009, 22:12
A thread to discuss the iconography of The Judgement
Over 500 years of history in 78 cards
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Hello Pen.Pen wrote:From A Catechisme by Laurence Vaux, 1583
Very similar to the images on many Tarot de Marseille, except for the presence of Christ and an extra angel, which gives extra weight to the argument that it would have been blasphemous to depict Christ on cards.
Hi Marco, I agree with Pen because these images are contemporary and represent the same as tarot cards and none of them shows the image of Christ.marco wrote: Why do you think that this image gives "extra weight to the argument that it would have been blasphemous to depict Christ on cards"?
Hello Lamort,lamort wrote: Hi Marco, I agree with Pen because these images are contemporary and represent the same as tarot cards and none of them shows the image of Christ.
He was interpreting the World as God the Father. It seems that he was looking at a World trump in which God was represented. In an apocalyptic scene, the Judge can indeed be represented both by God the Father and Jesus. The presence of Justice as the 20th trump could help in underlining the role of the figure of the World as the Judge.the Author of the Steele Sermon wrote: 19 Lo angelo: The angel
20 La iusticia: Justice
21 El mondo (cioe Dio Padre): The world (i.e. God the Father)
Hello Marco,This engraving is also very similar to the Visconti-Sforza Judgement, except that in the card God the Father appears instead of Christ.
Why do you think that this image gives "extra weight to the argument that it would have been blasphemous to depict Christ on cards"?
Yes, I'm sure it all depends on time and place as to what's depicted on the cards, which makes it pretty much impossible to generalize.I think that the blasphemy of representing Christ or God on a playing card might have been a problem in some time and place.
No, that is a myth. No Church ever persecuted Tarot, or said anything about it in an official way.lamort wrote:Without going into the cards to Besançon, and beyond the reigning Christian culture & Christian iconography of the French cards, the tarot was historically persecuted by the Christian church, right?