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... Thanks for responding, but you go too fast. And I need go very slow on my ship of fools by the Doubt's Sea, and I am yet in 1450, not in 1460
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In the next steep we have two decks. (or...?)
1) Brera, with two triumphs: Emperor and Fortune. Its a very difficult know when is made this deck. Well, maybe we can said "Perhaps before 1447".
2) PMB, with 14+6 triumphs
If we accept the PMB are from +/- 1452, maybe we need refine some details of this argument:
"I think most people are reasonable, and will see that we have fragmentary decks from the 15th century, which once contained the 22 standard trumps. This includes the Charles VI, Catania, Brambilla, Visconti-Sforza, and Este decks. The Cary-Yale is a unique deck, both in the trumps and the Court Cards".
Because we are not sure the Charles VI, Catania and Este decks are from 1450, we need reduce the Kaplan Table to PMB, CY and Brera, the only decks made (probably) around 1450 or before:
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This leaves us with two scenarios (or maybe three):
- The PMB have 22 triumphs in origins and the 6 cards were added to replace lost cards.
- He was 14 triumphs and the 6 cards added more later to bring the deck to a new structure.
Well... We have any document, deck, oral tradition, anything, before 1460 where said the "gioco da trionfi" have 22 triumphs? If exists, I don't know.
But, as Huck said, we have two interesting notes where appear the number 14:
1. 1441, 1st of January, payment to the painter Sagramoro for painting "14 figure"
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E adi deto (1 gennaio) lire due, soldi cinque marchesani, contanti a Magistro Iacopo de Sagramoro depintore per XIIII figure depinte in carta de bambaxo et mandate a Madama Bianca da Milano per fare festa la scira de la Circumcisione de l'anno presente... L.II.V.
"And on the said day (1 January) two lire, five soldi marchesane, reckoned to Maestro Jacopo de Sagramoro, painter, for 14 figures painted on cotton paper and sent to Lady Bianca of Milan, to make festive the celebration of the Circumcision of the present year ... L. II. V."
In this note not appear the phrase "gioco da triomphi", but is really interesting.
2. The note of 1457 (now I cant find in trionfi)
«Maestro Girardo de Andrea da Vizenza dipintore de avere adi 21 de luglio per sua fatura et spesa d'oro fino, coluri, de avere depinto para due de carte grande da trionfi, che sono carte 70 per zogo, le quale sono mese d'oro fitamente, et fate tute de coluri fini et brunide, et depinte de roverso uno paro rosa, uno paro verde. Le quale ebe Piedro de Schiveto per uxo de lo Signore ; de quale dito dimanda ducati 8 del paro, a soldi 56 per ducato, fano lire 22, soldi 8 ; et Galioto li tasa lire 28. Se n'abate soldi 2 per lira, sono 2, soldi 16; resta suo credito…L.25.4».
70 - 56 = 14
In sumary, between 1400 - 1457 we not have any document where appear "22 triumphs", but we have documents or decks with 14 and 16.
OK! If we have a clue of unicorn pink, a document, then (after, no before) we can begin with the hipotesys and the doubts.
When are added the six cards?
Can we sure are only six?
Why were accepted this cards so badly painted?
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In really sumary of my position about the Huck teorhy. I don't agree on some details. For example, I'm not sure the Charles VI deck aka the Medici Deck was from Lorenzo. Or I don't know when are added the 6 cards... And many more questions. But from my opinion, in my humble opinion, is the only
documented hypotheses about the origin of tarot cards. In history, what you see is what you get, the rest are literature.