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Re: The Chariot

Finally replying to what Mike wrote almost two weeks ago—it took a while because I ended up covering a lot more ground than I expected... I have not proved anything. All I am concerned with is plausibility. Fame is plausibly the World card, in all the various designs except perhaps the PMB, and the ...

Re: The Chariot

Sorry Huck! I will try to be more polite in the future. It might sometimes be difficult, because I disagree with nearly all of your ideas, but I do have an enormous amount of respect for the work you have done in collecting information and sources on the history of tarot. And my offer of sending you...

Re: The Chariot

The Chariot in the PMB doesn't mean FAME. Fame was presented by the card, which was taken as Justice, as already demonstrated. The Chariot in the Cary-Yale doesn't mean FAME. Fame was presented by the card, which was interpreted as Mondo-World. Oh Huck... All you've done in that post is just repeat...

Re: CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

I find it quite hard to believe that it could have been a gift for Marie, myself. All of the imprese are Visconti, except on that one card. Given that her marriage with Filippo Maria wasn't exactly a joyous one, it's a little hard to imagine someone giving her a gift of a pack of cards in which the ...

Re: The Chariot

Moving on now to your main objections. First, and very briefly: mikeh wrote The love story [in Petrarch's I Trionfi ] is partly about preserving the Fame of Laura's Pudicitia after Death, over Time, hence his own Fame as a poet, until Time erases all trace and they reunite in Eternity. Yes, of cours...

Re: The Chariot

Thanks for your replies, Huck and Mike. In reply, I first want to respond to Mike's comment "It would take pretty poor eyesight to see an hourglass as a lantern." It looks like it might be useful to discuss these kinds of copying errors, before I proceed any further with our discussion of ...

Re: CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

Ross, I think the answer to your question is given by a simple comparative assessment of probabilities. The CY Love card depicts a wedding. Above the couple being married, there is a row of shields. Two coats of arms are displayed on them, each repeated multiple times, arranged alternately. They are...

CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

... and the medlar was a Visconti device. Not Sforza. (although it was adopted by Sforza years later, along with all the other Visconti devices) I've just come across a doctoral dissertation written by Reina Gabriele for the University of Lausanne, published in 2018 under the title Le Imprese Araldi...

Re: The Chariot

Thanks for the welcome Michael! I am very impressed with the huge amount of work you have put into your blogs, and I very much intend to read them. I have read parts of several of them already, but it will take me quite a while to read the rest (especially as there are many other resources competing...

Re: The Chariot

Hi everyone, I'm new here, so please forgive me if I do something wrong, and let me know what I'm supposed to be doing... I discovered this forum about ten days ago, and have since been eagerly reading vast reams of old posts. I've been fascinated by the early history of tarot since reading Michael ...

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