Dear Huck, Ross Caldwell, mikeh, and others who are interested, After having read your latest posts on Karnöffel starting with Maybe the theme Karnöffel needs a collection.[...] and Karnöffel was first noted 1427 in Nördlingen. As this is a relative short time before the first note about Trionfi dec...

Thanks a lot, also for your interesting elaboration [...] There is not much reaction, beside the engagement of Franco Pratesi, who wrote a few articles. ... :-) .. but Franco also had not much enthusiasm for the theme. I persecute it from time to time, and have occasionally little successes. For the...

Many thanks, Huck, that you even asked Franco [Pratesi, I presume, what an honour!] w.r.t the "eyes" in card games Added: I asked Franco, who once claimed, that he knows 7 languages. And with some security he's very competent with older Italian languages. Me: "Augen" in German ca...

Dear Huck, thanks for your answer [..] Once there was a time, when the oldest Tarot-similar words were the tarochi notes of Ferrara 1515/16 (?) ... no, Kaplan (1978) had Berni 1526 as oldest. Dummett (1980) had Ferrara 1516 ... "[...] It clarifies for me that the community allows for new insigh...

Dear Huck, thanks for the information you provided in All, what I have in this category, is to some degree "insecure". "Insecure" does not mean that it is "wrong". A lot of insecure notes, however, can get a high degree of plausibility. [..] It is very interesting to me...

Thanks, Huck, for your information and especially the list for the dates between Bassano and 1530: ... which, as far as I understand it, makes the change from "trionfi" to "taro-"words due to the fact that there is simply no italian triumph when loosing the battle two times to th...

Dear all who are interested in the new hypothesis on the etymology of "tarocchi": H1: Etymology is: tarocchi = tar‘occhi = tarh‘ occhi or tara/tari occhi = tara eyes or tare eyes [I propose this also in light of the earlier spelling version “tarochi”, which is “only” a question of spelling...

Dear Huck, sorry, I didn't know that in work means that the post is not ready (I feel still as a first time user), I thought that "in work" means a kind of linking several posts together in a semantic chain. About your material I have to think first - or I wait until you finalize the post ...

Dear Huck, finally I do understand your argument My argument about the Tarocus of Bassano in Vercelli is, that Tarocus was in 1495 a mockery word about French soldiers, who lost a battle and their booty at the the river Taro near Fornovo. Very interesting as an opinion, stemming from a lot of histor...

Thanks, Huck, for as well your kind introduction how to create quotes (I'm such a fool, sorry) and the new material (which I find very interesting, especially the part where dices where used in order to decide about a juridical case) - I have to admit that I do not understand why you put the table w...