Re: What are the documents for Marziano's dates?
471I updated above, hope you see it.
Huck
http://trionfi.com
http://trionfi.com
Most excellent, thank you for that work!Huck wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 16:26 This is a comparison between English-German (g) and Italian (i) ... I hope nothing is wrong. Would be nice, if you identify all 22 from your list.
Yes, it is. I think it will be worth it to screen-copy all of the pages. It doesn't seem possible to buy it.Huck wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 17:30 https://issuu.com/k-team/docs/castle_tr ... he_castell
... is a very nice guide to the castles. Thanks ...
It looks nice, if you click the full screen mode (Button RIGHT LOWER CORNER)Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 17:09 This guide, in four European languages, has 45 castles in the old duchy, in some way associated with the Visconti.
https://issuu.com/k-team/docs/castle_tr ... he_castell
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Cannot be downloaded, unfortunately. The online reader is very inconvenient.
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Got it, thanks!Huck wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 18:01
It looks nice, if you click the full screen mode (Button RIGHT LOWER CORNER)
Automatic translationLa strada Quintana doveva essere importante perché conduceva al Porto fluviale del Falcone (ora Cà di Biss) che riforniva la zona di mercanzie varie. Infatti sul principio dell' estate 1424 si verificarono a Milano alcuni casi di peste e Filippo Maria Visconti se ne venne subito ad Abbiategrasso e rimanendo chiuso nel Castello, diede disposizione affinché le mercanzie circolassero liberamente tranne che nei luoghi a Lui riservati: Abbiategrasso, Cusago, Monza, Pavia, Novara, Galliate e Vigevano. La strada Quintana doveva essere importante perché conduceva al Porto fluviale del Falcone (ora Cà di Biss) che riforniva la zona di mercanzie varie.
http://www.paliodisanpietro.it/contradaprimavera.htmThe Quintana road must have been important because it led to the Falcone river port (now Cà di Biss) which supplied the area with various merchandise. In fact, at the beginning of the summer 1424 some cases of plague occurred in Milan and Filippo Maria Visconti immediately came to Abbiategrasso and, remaining closed in the Castle, made arrangements for the merchandise to circulate freely except in the places reserved for him: Abbiategrasso, Cusago, Monza, Pavia, Novara, Galliate and Vigevano. The Quintana road must have been important because it led to the Falcone river port (now Cà di Biss) which supplied the area with various merchandise.
Good quote.Huck wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 09:25
"Cà di Biss" is here ... https://www.google.com/maps/place/20081 ... d8.8568549
... in some distance to the river (possibly the river has moved away). Likely the the street, which leads to Cà di Biss is the addressed Quintanq road.
I don't know. Marziano travelled more than Filippo Maria. He was in Genoa with his nephew Urbano in January 1422. I don't think Filippo Maria ever saw the sea. After that, everything with Marziano's signature or witness is from Milan, Pavia (April 1423), or Tortona (July 1424).Huck wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 09:25 This consideration is about the possibility, if Marziano da Tortona could make the distance between Tortona and Abbiategrasso with a ship.
Tortona is at the Western bank of the river Scrivia, a river of 88 km length. The Scrivia runs in the river Po, probably the distance Tortona-Po-entry is 21km. If it was possible to take the travel between Tortona and Po-entry via ship might be doubted, from the optic of the river. Height of Tortona is 122 meters. Pieve del Cairo (close to the entry in the Po) has a height of 80 meters. This would mean, that 1 km on the river in average lose c 2 meter at the height above ocean. A possible transport might depend on the season and "enough water".
November has the most water. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrivia