Re: Shame of Time
11theese things indeed look minchiate-ish. you can see a tower on fire a few cards away from the "time" card, and it looks like the card that replaces "the tower" in the minchiate
I think, there's no evidence for card production in Ronciglinne before ca. 1580 (?). The cards were found in book-binding (juristic material) ... which might have happened later than the material in the book. So the writing of the text is not necessarily the date of production of the cards. In 17th century Ronciglione was definitely a card printing city of some importance.mmfilesi wrote:... ...
I dont understand... why Orazi are sure the sheets are from the XVII century? I cant see any date or name of cardmarker...
Maybe I need read this book:
http://www.ronciglione-crs.it/CRS/home/ ... mmario.htm
No, it's agreed, that Ronciglione and its playing card production survived 1649 under new regime. Castro was destroyed (capital of the Southern Farnese countries; the Northern were Parma and Piaczenza). The playing card production functioned till begin of 18th century.mmfilesi wrote:This book seem interesting:
Stamperie, carte e cartiere nella Ronciglione del XVII e XVIII secolo:
atti della giornata di studio presso la Sala riunioni della Cassa rurale e artigiana, 26 ottobre 1991
Francesco M. D'Orazi
Centro ricerche e studi, 1996.
I cant read it, but in the title we can found a clue: from XVII to XVIII centurys.
Thats mind, the cardmarkers of Ronciglione survive the 1649 - disaster?
In this case, the sheet can be made in the XVIII centurys.
His sister knew the region. She had arranged herself with pope Julius II in 1505/06 ... who was once a foe of Alexander VI (and so of her).His sister meanwhile was released in 1500 as lover of Alexander VI and went to Carbognano (10 km distance to Ronciglione). She returned 1505 to Rome and married her daughter Laura to a relative of the new pope Julius II. She had various lovers and then a new husband, but returned to Carbognano as a governor 1506, which she ruled with cleverness till 1522. Then she returned to Rome, in the household of her brother. In 1524 she died, 50 years old.
i Germini di Ronciglione (fine sec. XVI); due fogli, oggi in possesso di collezionisti privati ma in origine contenuti in un volume dell'Archivio Notarile di Ronciglione, presso Viterbo
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