I find this interpretation of Steve quite plausible .SteveM wrote:From my understanding of the 'poem', Dame Fortune is more likely than Temperance/Fama:Huck wrote:I didn't understand your discussion, but ... if Merlin interpreted, that "Dame" means "Fortune", it means only, that Merlin interpreted Dame as Fortune and not, that Dame is or was Fortune for Vievil.
As I read it the Dame is decried at the beginning and damned at the end, while it is easy to see that Fortune may be decried and damned (inasmuch, at least, as she damns), why should Temperance/Fama be decried and damned?
'crie a son de trompe' - shouted to the sound of trumpets = decried, denounced; the Dame who is decried to all, by the pope, popesse, etc - is to be hanged and carted off to the devil/hell - and I suppose the vile life of Jack (Jaques vie vil), the crazy old man and card-maker, and all her other lovers, may be inferred to be damned along with her --
It also more logical, that a crazy old man, a card-maker, a gamester, be a lover of Fortune than of Temperance:
"Saint-Père, fais-moi justice de ce vieillard, mat et bagat amoureux de cette dame qui soit crier à son de trompe à tout le monde, par le pape, la popesse, l'empereur..."
Holy father, render me justice for this old man/art, fool and gamester in love with this lady who is trumpeted to all the world, by the pope, the popesse, the emperor...
My understanding in adequation with Steve interpretation of Dame = Fortuna X as suggested by Merlin
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NB :
Lady as Merlin noted wouldbe Fortuna X.
Nevertheless, this does not resolves another enigma.
The FAMA SOL of Viéville's TEMPERANCE IIIIX
Topic still at work on this question : I offered the "corne d'abondance" of Tyché as suggestion
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