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I found a French-language article in a German magazine ["Le nouvelliste politique d'Allemagne", produced in Cologne 1780-1787 ] of July 1784 with a description of the burial of Court de Gebelin. The edition had 4 not very large pages, and the article had the most prominent first place at the first page in the upper left corner.

http://a.trionfi.eu/q/gebelin-1.jpg
http://a.trionfi.eu/q/gebelin-2.jpg
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ssuepage=1
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Huck wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 11:05 I found a French-language article in a German magazine ["Le nouvelliste politique d'Allemagne", produced in Cologne 1780-1787 ] of July 1784 with a description of the burial of Court de Gebelin. The edition had 4 not very large pages, and the article had the most prominent first place at the first page in the upper left corner.

http://a.trionfi.eu/q/gebelin-1.jpg
http://a.trionfi.eu/q/gebelin-2.jpg
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ssuepage=1
Thanks for that contemporary source, Huck!

I wrote about Gébelin's burial on my Tarot History Facebook group on 10 July 2022:
Today in Tarot History

The Monument to Court de Gébelin, 1784-1793.
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http://www.rosscaldwell.com/gebelin/geb ... anche2.jpg


Antoine Court de Gébelin, known simply as Gébelin, died in Paris on the night of 12-13 May, 1784. As a Protestant, he was forbidden burial in any of the Catholic cemeteries of Paris, and was therefore interred in the unique cemetery reserved for Protestants, located north of the Hôtel Saint-Louis (now in the 10th Arrondissement, the cemetery completely lost under buildings).

He was greatly admired by many liberal-minded people of the time, including Claude-Camille-François, Count of Albon (1753-1789). Around 1780, Albon had acquired a large property in the area of Franconville, north of Paris, where he designed gardens, a park filled with statues, monuments, and memorials, for the purpose of pleasant and contemplative walks. Gébelin had visited the gardens on several occasions, and had discovered a favourite location from which to view the surrounding countryside, and contemplate.

In a written eulogy published later that year, the Count relates how, when he saw his friend's grave, among the others at the Protestant cemetry, without memorial or distinction, he decided to gain permission to move his body to his own property, where he could give him a fitting memorial. For the location, Albon chose Gébelin's favourite place in the gardens.

Having obtained permission, Gébelin's body was transferred to Franconville on 2 July 1784. On 10 July the lead coffin holding the body was formally interred in the above-ground tomb, topped with an angled stone lid, upon which was engraved a depiction of Hermes drawing Egyptian hieroglyphs. Around the tomb were four round pillars, of unequal heights, bearing different ancient alphabets. A prominent plaque on one of them read, “Passer-by, venerate this tomb: Gébelin lies here.”

The tomb stood in the gardens until the disorders of the Revolution reached it. In April of 1793, by which time the property belonged to a different owner, the tomb was ransacked, the pillars toppled, and the stone slab with the engraving shattered. In this destruction it merely shared the fate of all of the other monuments of the garden. However, despite its brief existence, in succeeding years the garden was remembered by the local inhabitants. An admirer of Gébelin who went in search of his tomb in 1884, the centenary of his death, was told snippets of information that had become almost folkloric, and even shown the probable location where the tomb once stood.

Fortunately, engravings of all of the monuments of Albon's gardens were made shortly after Gébelin was laid to rest there. Thanks to this, we can have a very good idea of its appearance.

In a profound sense, all of us who study Tarot today are passers-by venerating Gébelin's tomb.

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Thanks, that's fine.

I found the funeral article of Gebelin with this tool:
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ry=gebelin
There is a collection of German newspapers, and it is organized by this "www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de" ... for the name "Gebelin" the year 1784 and the burial it is the first appearance. I have no idea for the moment, how complete the newspaper collection is.
If one replaces the word "Gebelin" with another terminus (possibly you must change to the "oldest first"-modus), one will get other results ... in the case, that somebody is interested to find something else ...
... for instance ...
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... uery=tarot .... oldest is from 1784 - Tarot
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... uery=taroc .... oldest is from 1768 - Taroc
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ery=tarock .... oldest is from 1764 - Tarock

I remember, that I found with other ways some better results, so this tool is far from perfect, but probably one will get some more results.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=821&p=11693&hilit=taroc#p11693
Maybe I should update this research a little bit.

Ross, I've trouble to understand the context of the "3 filles" and the 85-years-old Lady. in the German burial article.
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Huck wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:21
Ross, I've trouble to understand the context of the "3 filles" and the 85-years-old Lady. in the German burial article.
Nothing to do with Gébelin, though. I think triplets was remarkable news.
Marguerite Nivot, femme de Simon Girard, Bucheron, de la paroisse de Loques en Brie, diocese de Paris, à quatre lieues de cette ville & à une & demie de Lagny, accoucha, le 23 du mois dernier, à deux heures du matin, de trois filles, qui reçurent le baptême le même jour; ces trois enfans qui se portent bien & promettent de vivre, furent reçus par leur grand mere maternelle, âgée actuellement de 85 ans.
"Marguerite Nivot, wife of Simon Girard, woodcutter, from the parish of Loques in Brie, diocese of Paris, four leagues from this town and one and a half leagues from Lagny, gave birth on the 23rd of last month at two o'clock in the morning to three daughters, who were baptized on the same day. These three children, who are in good health and show promise of living, were received by their maternal grandmother, currently aged 85 years."

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Huck wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 22:32 Well, right, I had a misunderstanding cause of the lay-out of the text. It are 3 different situations, not one, as I suspected. So the text about the burial is then rather trivial.
It's nothing we didn't know already, but it shows that Gébelin remained newsworthy even when it was something like being exhumed and moved to a new burial location two months later.

If there are any remains of the monuments left, Gébelin's tomb should be in this wooded section -
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Another view shows pathways running through the area.
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I compared it to this map, the "Carte des Chasses," which was made late 18th century, when some of the monuments still stood -
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Overlaying the Carte des Chasses on the modern view shows where some of the monuments in the Comte d'Albon's garden should have been. Such as the Pyramid
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The "Deutsches Zeitungsportal" with the webpage .... https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper/ .... allows the search of specific keywords in a large collection of historical newspapers in Germany from 1671 to 1994.

One article with " Minchiate" ... only 1 result, and this is an article about playing card history (1907)
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... =Minchiate

Tarot keywords:
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ery=tarock .... oldest is from 1764 - Tarock, totally 3138 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... uery=taroc .... oldest is from 1768 - Taroc, totally 304 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... uery=tarok .... oldest is from 1768 - Tarok, totally 1568 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... uery=tarot .... oldest is from 1784 - Tarot, totally 203 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ry=Tarrock .... oldest in 1818 .... Tarrock, totally 241 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ry=taroque .... oldest is from 1832 - Taroque, totally 6 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ery=Tarrok .... oldest is from 1839 - Tarrok ,totally 143 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ry=Tarocco ..... oldest is from 1840 - Tarocco, totally 5 results
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... y=Tarocchi .... oldest is from 1860 - Tarocchi, totally 26 results

Keyword Skat - Skat is the most famous German card game. One might expect, that Skat woud reach the highest number of all noted card games in the newspapers.
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... query=Skat+
Skat has 52,348 results, however, some of these results are based on an error. The terminus "Stat" (in modern German "Staat", in English "state") in some versions is interpreted as "Skat" and this is definitely wrong. Especially "Schwäbischer Merkur, mit Schwäbischer Kronik und Handelszeitung : Süddeutsche Zeitung" is connected to this error and this probably 1339 times.
So one should suspect for this system, that it is not free of errors.

I move this collection to the thread "collection Germany/Austria/Switzerland"
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=821
It should be of some use there.

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The oldest of the results is a poem ...
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Gods ... without Demogorgon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Ruspoli,_Rome
Jacopo Zucchi, Decorazioni della Galleria, 1589-1592, Palazzo Rucellai Caetani Ruspoli, Roma

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Discorso sopra li dei de' gentili, e loro imprese; con vn breue trattato delle attioni de li dodici Cesari, con le dichiarationi delle loro medaglie antiche. Composto da Giacomo Zucchi pittore ..
Giacomo Zucchi nella stamperia di Domenico Gigliotti, 1602 - 170 Seiten
https://books.google.de/books?id=chtuwJ ... navlinks_s

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacopo_Zucchi
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacopo_Zucchi

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In contrast ...
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Hendrick Goltzius
Demogorgon in the Cave of Eternity (The Magician), circa 1588-1590
https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Demog ... 627869EBE1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrick_Goltzius
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Went to SF for my 60th and caught the Botticelli exhibit at the Legion of Honor museum there (a traditional museum on a spectacular headland/park overlooking the entrance to the bay). https://www.famsf.org/exhibitions/botticelli-drawings

Most of you aren't anywhere near there except for I think Mike Howard (Oregon?) - worth the trek down for you.

It was mainly his drawings but included a surprising number of paintings (including Mystic Nativity and in interesting panel of five of the Sibyls). I was hoping to find anything related to his Pallas and Centaur, which I interpret as an ocasio metaphor following Lorenzo "seizing the moment" during the Pazzi war 1478-82, which I link to the CVI (I know most of you date that deck earlier); https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas_and_the_Centaur. The only thing of relevance (in regard to Pallas grasping the centaur by his forelocks, a typical ocasio attribute), I did find a similar gesture in a Judith and Holofernes (which Sangallo painted, also in the exhibition):
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Other Museum holdings of note included: a Pesellino Annunciation - too standard to bother posting here; a c. 1400 Lorenzo di Niccolo birthtray with Boccacio's Diana Hunt on the obverse and Justice on the reverse (really happy to have encountered that; a detail of the bathing cortege of Diana):
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Would have loved to thumb through this Petrarch book:
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Note really noteworthy, but a Dal Ponte!
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