Hare, Eitelberger, Leber Tarocchi, Cicognara, Turin deck
Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 23:04
There are a few old unsolved questions ...
Rudolf Eitelberger (1817 - 1885
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Eitelberger
Eitelberger (an art historian) wrote also about playing cards. Willshire notes: "Eitelberger, R. von. — Memoir on Playing Cards, with special reference to some examples of old packs existing at Vienna. Vienna, 1860." I know a German text with a German title.
It's here (I show the end of the article, which is the most interesting):
Mittheilungen der K.K. Central-Commission zur Erforschung und Erhaltung der Baudenkmale, Band 5
Gerold, 1860
https://books.google.de/books?id=pVQ_AA ... &q&f=false
The article of Eitelberger is from p. 93-102
It has 2 interesting passages:
At p. 96 ..
The author speaks of cards, which Passavant once took as the oldest printed cards. It's recognizable, that it is spoken of the Liechtenstein'schen cards, which belonged in Passavant's time to a Herr Butsch in Augsburg. Passavant's passage is here ...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5 ... /f41.image
... and the Liechtenstein'schen cards are in here ...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b105102791/f1.item
Hoffman (1972; picture 24 description) gives the info, that the Rothschild family bought the two sheets from a Dr. Roth.
More interesting (p. 102):
Footnote 1
Eitelberger knows a Tarocchi game in the possession of A. Antaria ..
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/index.php/Verlag_Artaria
... which has 23 cards:
Bastoni: No. 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Denari: No. 1
Coppe: 6 cards
Spade: 8 cards
Free handpainted cards, made without stencil (according Eitelberger). Eitelberger notes, that this deck had been once in the hands of Conte (Leopold) Cicognara.
Some cards of the same game (according Eitelberger) are in Eitelberger's time in the possession of "königlichen Bibliothek" (Royal library) of Turin., other in the possession of "Marchese Durazzo".
Kaplan gives at p. 119, Encyclopedia I, 15 cards in the Bibliotheca Nazionale Universaria, which were damaged in a fire in the year 1904.
I have forgotten, where I got these both picture from, but it is obvious, that they are identical to the deck shown by Kaplan.
Eitelberger gives two pictures, one of them belongs to the bastoni (naturally copies).
It looks, as if being from the deck. That's a coin motif of Eitelberger:
And that are two coins motifs of the Kaplan pictures:
They look similar. But ...
One of these both cards is an Ace of coins (and it has a HARE above the circle) and an ace of coin is also in the 23 cards, which are located in 1860 at Vienna. So it isn't so easy ... either the assumption, that the deck in Kaplan's book is that, what Eitelberger spoke about, must be wrong or some other misunderstanding was going on (for instance: Eitelberger had limited information about the deck in Turin, perhaps he just knew, that this deck was rather similar in style; or perhaps: the burned deck wasn't that in the royal library).
Well, we have an HARE and at least in my recent studies this is a detection of some importance ...
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1105&start=30#p18416
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=663&start=50#p18344
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=663&start=50#p18361
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It stays the question, where the 23 cards of Mr. Antaria went too.
Rudolf Eitelberger (1817 - 1885
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Eitelberger
Eitelberger (an art historian) wrote also about playing cards. Willshire notes: "Eitelberger, R. von. — Memoir on Playing Cards, with special reference to some examples of old packs existing at Vienna. Vienna, 1860." I know a German text with a German title.
It's here (I show the end of the article, which is the most interesting):
Mittheilungen der K.K. Central-Commission zur Erforschung und Erhaltung der Baudenkmale, Band 5
Gerold, 1860
https://books.google.de/books?id=pVQ_AA ... &q&f=false
The article of Eitelberger is from p. 93-102
It has 2 interesting passages:
At p. 96 ..
The author speaks of cards, which Passavant once took as the oldest printed cards. It's recognizable, that it is spoken of the Liechtenstein'schen cards, which belonged in Passavant's time to a Herr Butsch in Augsburg. Passavant's passage is here ...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5 ... /f41.image
... and the Liechtenstein'schen cards are in here ...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b105102791/f1.item
Hoffman (1972; picture 24 description) gives the info, that the Rothschild family bought the two sheets from a Dr. Roth.
More interesting (p. 102):
Footnote 1
Eitelberger knows a Tarocchi game in the possession of A. Antaria ..
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/index.php/Verlag_Artaria
... which has 23 cards:
Bastoni: No. 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Denari: No. 1
Coppe: 6 cards
Spade: 8 cards
Free handpainted cards, made without stencil (according Eitelberger). Eitelberger notes, that this deck had been once in the hands of Conte (Leopold) Cicognara.
Some cards of the same game (according Eitelberger) are in Eitelberger's time in the possession of "königlichen Bibliothek" (Royal library) of Turin., other in the possession of "Marchese Durazzo".
Kaplan gives at p. 119, Encyclopedia I, 15 cards in the Bibliotheca Nazionale Universaria, which were damaged in a fire in the year 1904.
I have forgotten, where I got these both picture from, but it is obvious, that they are identical to the deck shown by Kaplan.
Eitelberger gives two pictures, one of them belongs to the bastoni (naturally copies).
It looks, as if being from the deck. That's a coin motif of Eitelberger:
And that are two coins motifs of the Kaplan pictures:
They look similar. But ...
One of these both cards is an Ace of coins (and it has a HARE above the circle) and an ace of coin is also in the 23 cards, which are located in 1860 at Vienna. So it isn't so easy ... either the assumption, that the deck in Kaplan's book is that, what Eitelberger spoke about, must be wrong or some other misunderstanding was going on (for instance: Eitelberger had limited information about the deck in Turin, perhaps he just knew, that this deck was rather similar in style; or perhaps: the burned deck wasn't that in the royal library).
Well, we have an HARE and at least in my recent studies this is a detection of some importance ...
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1105&start=30#p18416
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=663&start=50#p18344
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=663&start=50#p18361
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It stays the question, where the 23 cards of Mr. Antaria went too.