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Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Thanks for the link, Ross. I couldn't seem to get anywhere navigating this library's website. There seems to be one other illustration besides that for Love, but I can't make out what it is supposed to be. Nathaniel wrote, Thus, the link between the VdM World image and the Robertet Eternity image is...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

So now I am revisiting the Robertet (of Moulins, France) images in the light of Ziegler and others, in this post focusing on the Triumph of Love. I'm going to review what Ziegler has to say and add a few things. My topic is the hypothesis that the Robertet Triumphs (accepting Ziegler's 1490-1500 dat...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Thanks for the links, Huck. It's nice to know where to find the Genealogies on the Web - in Latin or your language of choice. Also, the 1502-3 tapestry done for Queen Isabella is much appreciated. I hadn't seen that one. Nathaniel wrote (https://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=906&am...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Nathaniel wrote, Correcting apparent violations of the meter was normal practice for copyists. As you know, we have another example in the last line of the Death quatrain, where one of the French writers appears to have inserted sed between Ecce/Esse and heu. In that case, there unquestionably was a...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

For Chastity and Love, we have a manuscript version of Molinet's quatrain, copied 1523-25 according to a catalog clipping reproduced on Gallica attached to their reproductions, as well as Dupire's printed transcriptions of the 1930s. For both, I will put the Modena by itself first, then the two Moli...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

I have been trying to track down more versions of the Latin quatrains, including other ms. editions of Robertet, to see how different they are. Douglas in her critical edition dissertation (https://www.proquest.com/openview/965dad99badd12595ed37f7f6a5498b5/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=2026366&...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

As a follow-up to the preceding, I notice that Franco Simone, in The French Renaissance: medieval tradition and Italian infljuence in shaping the Renaissance in France , 1969, p. 219, suggests Charles d'Orleans as the one who perhaps introduced Roberter to the works of Petrarch. In footnote 37 )p. 3...

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