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Re: Crackpot theories

On a similar note, yesterday someone sent me a link to a new book on the tarot’s origin whose thesis is that the tarot comes from the Sufi. I haven’t read it, and I don’t want to venture any further comment on it, but I wonder if anybody else has read it, or even if the author is a member here! Our...

Re: Exploring The Magician

Some have even suggested a cake on some cards... It has been suggested the unidentifiable mass on the VS ‘bagatto’ is a cake, I can’t recall who by, an Italian author on tarot I think, the long thread on the subject over at AT was lost in a hack attack. I see a figure holding a pointed reed in the ...

Re: The Penis on the Popess

I presume by 'this particular deck' is meant the Tarot de Marseille type-II - such as the Conver (and NOT the Noblet nor Tarot de Marseille type-I). In that case, the Bateleur's hand is irrelevant, or rather does NOT indicate a visual similarity to a penis. .. The Bateleur of type II holds a 'verge...

Re: The Penis on the Popess

I have noted elsewhere similar plays in medieval poems such as in the Romance of the Rose... If the context of finding inter-textual references in a 'moralised' game to popular and widespread texts such as the Romance of the Rose seems 'far-fetched'; and that it is mistaken to seek and find cross r...

Re: The Penis on the Popess

... and where no such depiction appears to have made it upon earlier decks. I am not talking about non-specific earlier decks, but the particular decks in which the allusion appears. I am not interested in some 'one size fits all' interpretation to cover all decks and / or patterns. Each tells its ...

Re: The Penis on the Popess

Fair enough Steve... I suppose that, however, to my reflection there is an element in your statement that is similar to someone saying that in Petrarch those clouds ' clearly look like UFOs', and that the archer 'looks like he's clearly trying to shoot them down': I suspect people of the 17th and 1...

Re: The Penis on the Popess

I'm certain that they would see a penis where there is one (such as on the Noblet Fou)... and far less certain that they (or most of us until such details were more meticulously studied for possible symbolic significance) would see one in the ambiguous folds of a depicted habit. It clearly looks li...

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