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Re: CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

Earlier in this thread I wrote There was also Bianca of Savoy who could have been commemorated, with Filippo elevated by association with his illustrious forbear Galeazzo II. Not as a marriage gift for her, obviously (this was in 1350). But if other stemmi can derive from this era, (the dove, radian...

Re: CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

Nathaniel wrote, ...I didn't suggest the CY deck was created in 1428. If it was made specifically to commemorate the wedding, it must have been for an anniversary of the wedding in those years. But I certainly think it could have been modeled directly on an earlier deck—in fact, given its extensive ...

Re: CY Swords fruit is neither quince nor pomegranate. It's medlar

I have finally had a chance to examine these posts in a less than hurried manner. When they were posted I was too busy with some other projects to pay attention. I have one thing to add on the Savoy/Pavia question. There was also Bianca of Savoy who could have been commemorated, with Filippo elevate...

Re: Unlucky 13 and the early development of the trump sequence

firecatpickles wrote 17 is unlucky for the Italians. Thank you. And for sure. Yet the fact remains that in the majority of the known early orders, Death is number 13 and the 13th card, and the Hanged Man is 13th in other orders, at least in the Bolognese, even if later it gets the number 12 written ...

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