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Re: Bolognese or Florentine trump order, which is earlier?

Nathaniel wrote, And as it has the Chariot in the same position as Croce's list, it definitely strengthens the case for dating the Pedini manuscript to no earlier than that mid-17th century revival. Where do you see that? Chariot is between Amore and Tempra, the standard position before the virtues....

Re: Bolognese or Florentine trump order, which is earlier?

Andrea Vitali recently wrote about a tarocchi apropriati from 1648, by Bartolomeo Bocchini (Bologna 1604 - Bergamo or Venice 1648/1653), in which Chariot is before the virtues: http://www.letarot.it/page.aspx?id=881. The papi are omitted; instead, where they would be, he put the Matto. That was eith...

Re: Project: Festival book 1475

Here's a little more: "hymen" comes from the ancient Greek ῠ̔μήν (humḗn), meaning "thin skin, membrane" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%91%CE%BC%CE%AE%CE%BD#Ancient_Greek, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hymen#Noun_5). In French, according to the latter web-page, the word has two meanings: the...

Re: Bolognese or Florentine trump order, which is earlier?

Good point, about the Ferrarese order, Chariot-Love, possibly having contributed to the confusion in Bologna. I would add only the minor point that even if tarot ceased to be played in Ferrara after the Papacy removed the Estense as rulers (1598), it would likely have continued with the same order i...

Re: The Minchiate Zodiac Order

I observe, that Libra and Germini are related to "twins", Libra has two scales and Gemini are anyway twins. I see what you are getting at, but perhaps worth noting that in traditional astrology LIbra was NOT considered a Dual Sign [there is some debate about it in modern astrology]; the dual signs ...

Re: The Minchiate Zodiac Order

RLG wrote, Huck wrote: ↑ 06 Dec 2020, 01:38 ...I personally prefer to assume, that Libra+Aries and Cancer+Leo are the "4 against the other 8". 24 Libra 25 Virgo 26 Scorpio ------------ 27 Aries 28 Capricorn 29 Sagittarius ------------ 30 Cancer 31 Pisces 32 Aquarius ------------ 33 Leo 34 Taurus 35 ...

Re: Unlucky 13 and the early development of the trump sequence

On the negative associations to 17, Andrea writes me: Già nella Grecia antica il numero 17 era aborrito dai seguaci di Pitagora in quanto era tra il 16 e il 18, perfetti nella loro rappresentazione di quadrilateri 4×4 e 3×6.[1] Nell'Antico Testamento è scritto che il diluvio universale cominciò il 1...

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